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Trump Network MAB Authorizes Unethical Proselyting of Arbonne Consultants

Emails from the Trump Network's Marketer's Advisory Board (MAB) & The Executive Diamond Group (EDG):

We recently received correspondence from those within and working on behalf of the Trump Network attempting to take advantage of those in Arbonne as the Arbonne Restructuring through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy continues.

As is our policy at VoiceWind.net, we believe the best remedy for inappropriate policies is to expose them to public scrutiny. So here are the facts.

The following are the most important portions of the correspondence.

"I know you have had much success with Arbonne, and to be frank with you, the company (meaning the owners and Mr. Trump himself) are looking for people just like yourself…
 
To put it plainly, we are looking for entrepeneurs with previous MLM experience that have significant downlines."

This person then attaches correspondence from his upline training team in Trump Network and the Tump Network Advisory Group.

"> Who do you know? Who could make a major impact on this company? Who has a huge organization in another company? Who is a person of significant influence?

> Your MAB and the EDG"

DSA (Direct Selling Association) Ethical Guidelines on Proselyting:
For the full information go to: www.dsa.org/ethics/proselyting/

"It is considered to be an improper practice when Company A, or its representatives, specifically and consciously targets the sales force of Company B with the intent of persuading Company B’s salespersons or employees not only to sell or work for Company A, but also to cease selling or working for Company B, thereby interfering with Company B’s business or contractual relations…it does apply to situations involving more than several persons, where the pattern, approach and timing of Company A would clearly indicate an intention to adversely impact on Company B. If Company B sends correspondence to Company A regarding alleged proselyting activity, Company A is expected to appropriately respond within 30 days after receipt of the correspondence."

How the Trump Network Violates DSA Proselyting Guidelines:

  1. They are contacting someone with success in Arbonne
  2. Those in other companies with significant downlines or huge organizations in another company
  3. The timing adversely impacts Arbonne as it is Restructuring through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

Trump Network Not Part of the DSA (Direct Selling Association):

The best way to resolve this is to file a complaint with the DSA. However, when we checked the DSA Member website, Trump Network is not a member of the DSA. Go figure!

This is not surprising as the above Trump Network business strategies fall outside the DSA Code of Ethics and the DSA Guidelines against Proselyting.

Perhaps this is what Donald Trump means when he says the Trump Network will change the face of network marketing!

Who is EDG and MAB in the Trump Network?:

  • EDG stands for "The Executive Diamond Group" of the Trump Network
  • MAB stands for "The Marketer Advisory Board" of the Trump Network.
    The following definition is taken from a Trump Network web site.

    [Note: The MAB is a functional board that consistently brings ideas and strategies to the Company executive officers and management. In essence, they act on your behalf to ensure that the Company understands the needs, wants, and desires of all the Company Independent Marketers.]
    (taken from "Pre-Launch of the Trump Network"

So what this means is this is not an isolated case. Although an individual might not know that proselyting a person in another netowrk marketing company with a significant downline is unethical, the Marketer's Advisory Board for Trump Network should. After all, the person that sent us the email appears to just be following the policies as recommended by the MAB and EDG.

The first email came from the MAB, the Marketer Advisory Board for Trump Network and from the EDG, the Executive Diamond Network and they said in their email:

"Who has a huge organization in another company…"

This was then picked up by the a member of the Executive Diamond Group of the Trump Network who said:

"To put it plainly, we are looking for entrepeneurs with previous MLM experience that have significant downlines."

To be blunt, rather than build their own network of consumers, their strategy is to steal them from other network marketing companies. A strategy that is contrary to the DSA's Code of Ethics and the DSA Proselyting Guidelines.

Trump Network Links Provided in the Correspondence:

 

The above is very straight forward. No network marketing company, or group of persons within the company should attempt to get person(s) from another network marketing company to jump to the other company.

So what does all this mean? When it comes to Network Marketing, Donald Trump, You're fired"!


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Trump Network Violates DSA Network Marketing Ethics

Emails from the Trump Network's Marketer's Advisory Board & The Executive Diamond Group:

We recently received correspondence from those within and working on behalf of the Trump Network attempting to take advantage of those in Arbonne as the Arbonne Restructuring through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy continues.

As is our policy at VoiceWind.net, we believe the best remedy for inappropriate policies is to expose them to public scrutiny. So here are the facts.

The following are the most important portions of the correspondence.

"I know you have had much success with Arbonne, and to be frank with you, the company (meaning the owners and Mr. Trump himself) are looking for people just like yourself…
 
To put it plainly, we are looking for entrepeneurs with previous MLM experience that have significant downlines."

This person then attaches correspondence from his upline training team in Trump Network and the Tump Network Advisory Group.

"> Who do you know? Who could make a major impact on this company? Who has a huge organization in another company? Who is a person of significant influence?

> Your MAB and the EDG"

DSA (Direct Selling Association) Ethical Guidelines on Proselyting:
For the full information go to: www.dsa.org/ethics/proselyting/

"It is considered to be an improper practice when Company A, or its representatives, specifically and consciously targets the sales force of Company B with the intent of persuading Company B’s salespersons or employees not only to sell or work for Company A, but also to cease selling or working for Company B, thereby interfering with Company B’s business or contractual relations…it does apply to situations involving more than several persons, where the pattern, approach and timing of Company A would clearly indicate an intention to adversely impact on Company B. If Company B sends correspondence to Company A regarding alleged proselyting activity, Company A is expected to appropriately respond within 30 days after receipt of the correspondence."

How the Trump Network Violates DSA Proselyting Guidelines:

  1. They are contacting someone with success in Arbonne
  2. Those in other companies with significant downlines or huge organizations in another company
  3. The timing adversely impacts Arbonne as it is Restructuring through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

Trump Network Not Part of the DSA (Direct Selling Association):

The best way to resolve this is to file a complaint with the DSA. However, when we checked the DSA Member website, Trump Network is not a member of the DSA. Go figure!

This is not surprising as the above Trump Network business strategies fall outside the DSA Code of Ethics and the DSA Guidelines against Proselyting.

Perhaps this is what Donald Trump means when he says the Trump Network will change the face of network marketing!

Who is EDG and MAB in the Trump Network?:

  • EDG stands for "The Executive Diamond Group" of the Trump Network
  • MAB stands for "The Marketer Advisory Board" of the Trump Network.
    The following definition is taken from a Trump Network web site.

    [Note: The MAB is a functional board that consistently brings ideas and strategies to the Company executive officers and management. In essence, they act on your behalf to ensure that the Company understands the needs, wants, and desires of all the Company Independent Marketers.]
    (taken from "Pre-Launch of the Trump Network"

So what this means is this is not an isolated case. Although an individual might not know that proselyting a person in another netowrk marketing company with a significant downline is unethical, the Marketer's Advisory Board for Trump Network should. After all, the person that sent us the email appears to just be following the policies as recommended by the MAB and EDG.

The first email came from the MAB, the Marketer Advisory Board for Trump Network and from the EDG, the Executive Diamond Network and they said in their email:

"Who has a huge organization in another company…"

This was then picked up by the a member of the Executive Diamond Group of the Trump Network who said:

"To put it plainly, we are looking for entrepeneurs with previous MLM experience that have significant downlines."

To be blunt, rather than build their own network of consumers, their strategy is to steal them from other network marketing companies. A strategy that is contrary to the DSA's Code of Ethics and the DSA Proselyting Guidelines.

Trump Network Links Provided in the Correspondence:

 

The above is very straight forward. No network marketing company, or group of persons within the company should attempt to get person(s) from another network marketing company to jump to the other company.

So what does all this mean? When it comes to Network Marketing, Donald Trump, You're fired"!


© 2010, VoiceWind. . .Greg Loveless. All rights reserved.

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VoiceWind Policy on Arbonne Restructuring Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Posts

VoiceWind.net Guiding Principle:

Our guiding principle at VoiceWind.net is to post only information that is true and factual and thus "informs the mind and the heart". Posts insulated from this principle are just noise and are not permitted.

This policy has been ahered to on all posts on the subject of Arbonne Restructuring through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.

The following is taken from Steven Iwersen's book "Chasing Porcupines".

The Principle of the Broom:

"Every person has the right to receive direction and meaningful information that helps inform their decisions."
— Steven Iwersen, NSA from his book "Chasing Porcupines"

The Broom of Champions – Guidance:

1) Information: People need information. They need it in order to make decisions. They need it to inform their minds and their hearts with objective data that will shape their perspective. Information provides a starting point for reasonable dialogue; the lack of information starts the downward spiral of assumptions, rumor, misunderstanding and suspicion.
— Steven Iwersen, NSA from his book "Chasing Porcupines"

John Maxwell, who has spoken at Arbonne NTC says:

"People will be down on, what they are not up on."

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Bankruptcy Types & Arbonne Chapter 11 Restructuring

There is much confusion over the Arbonne Restucturing through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. The following outlines the types of bankruptcies and how the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Arbonne has chosen to utilize works.

Most people are not aware that there are seven types of bankruptcy. Only attornies and those who have experienced bankruptcy would know this.

The seven types of bankruyptcy are:

  1. Chapter 7: For individuals & businesses. A liquidation of assests.
  2. Chapter 9: For municipalities.
  3. Chapter 11: For individuals & businesses. A restructuring of debt.
  4. Chapter 12 (a&b): For family farmers and fisherman.
  5. Chapter 13 (a&b): For individuals with regular income.


What is bankruptcy:

Bankruptcy allows a debtor who is unable to pay creditors to divide up assets among creditors.

The purpose of the bankruptcy process is to make sure all creditors are treated equally and that creditors cease all collection efforts.

Some bankruptcy procedures allow a debtor to remain in business. The increased cash flow from the restructuring allows the business to pay creditors.

When people think of bankruptcy it is usually Chapter 7 that they have in mind. In Chapter 7 all an individual's or a business' assets are liquidated and the funds are distributed to the creditors.

For example say a company had $25,000 in assets but owed $100,000 to creditors and was unable to make payment on this debt. Through Chapter 7 Bankruptcy the company's assets are sold off for $25,000. The creditors would then receive 25 cents on the dollar.

Arbonne Bankruptcy & Chapter 11 Restructuring:
Arbonne is NOT in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. They are using Chapter 11. Chapter 11 is a restructuring of debt where the debtor, in this case Arbonne, proposes a repayment plan or compensation plan to the creditors prior to filing Chapter 11 in court.

In Arbonne's case the creditors have agreed to exchange debt Arbonne owes them for a percentage of ownership in Arbonne.

Because the court filings began last week this means the creditors have already agreed to the prepackaged plan.

Now that court filing occurred it takes approximately 45 days for the process to be finalized.

For more and current information see my post on Arbonne Chapter 11 Bankruptcy & Restructuring Links.

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Arbonne Chapter 11 Impacts Business Builder Recruiting Ethic

The Arbonne Opportunity Presentation states that those considering being an Arbonne business builder should do their due diligence. Part of that due diligence is checking out the stability of the company. In the past Consultants who shared the Arbonne business handled this in various ways with the three most common being:

  1. In the ancient days Consultants stated that Arbonne was debt free. This fact eliminated a significant amount of financial risk.
  2. When this ended Consultants would list the years Arbonne had been in business. In addition they stated Arbonne was a financially solid company.
  3. When Harvest Partners took over Consultants would refer to Harvest Partner's financial stability.

But all this ended with the current financial difficulties Arbonne is facing as they go through a "Reorganization" or what is legally termed a "Chapter 11".

So in light of the current situation how does a Consultant handle the issue of due diligence as it pertains to Arbonne's financial stability?

There is an Ally Bank TV Commercial where an adult asks a young girl if she would like a pony. She says yes. He takes a toy pony out of his pocket and gives it to her. She says thank you. He then asks the next young girl if she wants a pony. She says yes. He calls to a pony and a real life pony comes walking out. The first girl says, "You didn't say we could have a real one." The adult says, "You didn't ask!" The announcer then says, "Even kids know its not right to hold out on somebody."

The same is true when a Consultant shares the Arbonne Business Opportunity knowing Arbonne's current financial difficulties. To withhold information from a person that could alter their decision contains the same ethical load as lying to them. By withholding this information you prevent the potential business builder from knowing all the risks.

Now there is nothing wrong with risk. All businesses carry some risk. But risk, in order to be ethical, must be known by the person taking the risk. Even if I think it is worth the risk, this does not justify the ethic when someone else is making the decision for themselves and their family. The only way to justify the ethic is to give the full information to the person making the decision.

So the question is, "What is the risk to join Arbonne?" The answer, to be honest is, none of the Consultants in the field really know what the true risks are because none of them have seen the books. All the field hears is what they hear from Arbonne Corporate. So is that enough to satisfy due diligence?

When I was the Director of an IT department I would regularly receive calls from head hunters who were looking to fill a position that my skills set matched. If I was interested I would take the information the head hunter provided about the position and the company.

But my due diligence never stopped there. I never took a head hunter's word when it came to the financial stability of a company because there was a conflict of interest. The head hunter had a vested interest in making that company look as good as possible in order to get me to say yes, because my yes benefited them.

The same is true with Arbonne. Arbonne Corporate has a conflict because they have a vested interest and are naturally going to put the best possible spin on things to paint the brightest picture. And any one who is already a Consultant in Arbonne, who is building a business, also has a conflict of interest because they want what Arbonne Corporate is saying to be true and to work out because they have time and treasure invested in the process.

So in light of this what does an Arbonne Consultant who is sharing the Arbonne business need to do to meet the ethics of full disclosure? The following provides full disclosure and is the only ethical way to share the Arbonne business in the current environment.

  1. State that Arbonne has been in business for over 30 years.
  2. State that Arbonne is still a leader in the industry.
  3. State that Arbonne is currently going through a financial reorganization.
  4. To be accurate make sure to use the terms "financial restructuring through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy".
  5. State that no Consultant has seen the books, and there has been no independent audit published.
  6. And, in the Arbonne spirit, encourage them to do their own due diligence before they make a decision.

Any less than the above does not fulfill the ethical requirement for full disclosure of risk.

Once Arbonne files the articles of bankruptcy in US Court, this would give final proof that there is an agreement with the creditors as a Chapter 11 Bankruptcy can only be filed if the creditors are in agreement with the restructuring. So once there is an announcement that the papers have been filed with the court, this confirms the stability of Arbonne. Then it takes 45 to 60 days to complete the process. Once the process is complete, Consultants would no longer have to state #3, #4 & #5 listed above.  

What if you are on the other end of the conversation? What are you to do if you are being recruited by an Arbonne Consultant to do the business during this time of transition? Ultimately it is up to each individual. But there is one fact to keep in mind. You must know all the risk to weigh all the risk. So my advice is — Rah, Rah does not replace due diligence. Only facts provide due diligence.

See my updated post on Arbonne Restructuring through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy at: Arbonne Chapter 11 Bankruptcy & Restructuring Links.

See all posts on Arbonne Restructuring through Chapter 11 Bankruptcy at: www.voicewind.net/category/arbonne/arbonne-bankruptcy-arbonne/

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